It may or may not be a surprise to some that while I support traditional values and believe they are the foundation to a stable society, I do not consider myself a traditionalist; at least not as it is defined in my blogging world. I don’t neatly fit into any group and if anything the best way to describe myself after being Christian is a realist/red pill thinker.
With that said, the traditionalistwomen and men have organized a new movement based at Feminine Mystique (eerie name for being against feminism) and while I want to agree with their mission there is something that just doesn’t sit right as I will point out in my commentary of the following piece by Jesse Powell at Feminine Mystique (http://femininemystiquetwra.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/why-i-am-a-twra/).
I am a TWRA, a Traditional Women’s Rights Activist, because I strongly believe that women should be granted the rights and privileges of the Traditional Woman; the rights and privileges that women were commonly granted traditionally, before feminism came on the scene. I will further add that the rights of Traditional Women should be granted to women generally simply on the basis of their being women whether a particular woman identifies as being a “Traditional Woman” or not.
I am opposed to “women’s rights” in the modern feminist sense. “Women’s rights” as the phrase is typically used today is a manipulative and misleading term implying that women have the “right” to do whatever they want regardless of how it harms others and regardless of how it undermines women’s rightful and traditional role in society. “Women’s rights” in the feminist sense is abusive and selfish as such “rights” are disconnected from any moral obligations or higher duty of the woman to her family and to society at large. The rights of the Traditional Woman however are honorable and noble and must be supported by men since the rights of the Traditional Woman are necessary for the woman to be able to fulfill her traditional role in society.
So, in other words, ALL women are honorable and noble and must be supported by men, whether she holds traditional values or not. A woman who does whatever she wants and harms society is still a traditional woman who should be honored. I have no doubt a feminist will walk all over a man who holds those beliefs and will end up using that man for her own misguided purpose.
Men owe women chivalry; the ethic that men should provide for and protect women. Creating a secure environment for women comes first. Men have to signal their trustworthiness before women can be expected to give men trust. Granting to women the rights of the Traditional Woman is the primary way that men signal to women that they are trustworthy. Only after men signal their trustworthiness will women trust men and only after there is mutual trust between men and women can a healthy and stable foundation for family life be established.
It is not a lack of women seeing men as trustworthy that is the problem. The problem is rebellion and this is a sin that women will have to address on their own (with God’s hand of course). No man can help them there. A secure environment was always there and women rebelled against this. Creating a secure environment now is not going to change a rebellious spirit. Also, what is with men having to do something first before women? This seems at odds with submission. Such as men have to be trustworthy, before women can trust. This is like saying men have to be worthy of a woman’s submission, before she submits.
Men must be the first ones to take the risk of abuse and harm in order to establish trust between the sexes.
Pause here for a moment. Yes, read it again. Women break the trust and yet men are the ones to take the abuse and harm. There is no responsibility for women’s collective past decisions and actions. Women get a free pass. A free pass to break the societal contract and have the men clean up the mess. Trust won’t be reestablished until women first humbly apologize and take the submissive position and repent.
In other words in a situation where men don’t trust women and women don’t trust men men must be the first to offer trust and vulnerability to establish trustworthiness in women’s eyes and break the cycle of mutual hostility and distrust between men and women.
The reason why men must go first is because it is the man’s role to provide for and protect women, not the other way around. Men are the ones who must take risks so that the environment for women is secure and predictable. The role of a woman requires safety and predictability. The role of the man confronts danger head on and creates for the woman the safety and predictability that she needs. In the context of mutual distrust between the sexes that feminism has created where neither side feels it can trust the other it is the man who has to face the danger of betrayal in order to reestablish the mutual trust that has been lost.
So I as a man support chivalry and the rights of the Traditional Woman because it is my duty as a man to create a secure environment for women and to support women in their traditional role and to signal to women that men are trustworthy.
Again, why? Why do men have to be the first to offer trust when they weren’t the ones who broke the trust? An answer of “because it is the man’s role to provide for and protect women” does not pass here. Men were doing that just fine and women rebelled, so what’s to stop them from continuing to rebel? Talk of a man’s role or man’s duty certainly won’t. Also, should men be showing women vulnerability? That seems more a trait of the submissive woman.
One of the most basic and fundamental rights of the Traditional Woman is the right to be financially provided for by one’s husband.
I wouldn’t call this a right. Being financially provided for is a privilege bestowed upon those worthy of a man committing to them; those worthy of being seen as an asset rather than a liability. Marriage and financial provisions are not rights and not something women deserve just for being women.
Married women should not work. Working to earn money is a specifically male role; it is a specifically masculine activity. It is not a general activity everyone should participate in, it is something that particularly fits with the strengths and the role of men. A woman being forced into the workforce is being displaced from her domestic role where she has the highest value to her family and to society and put into a situation where she is naturally disadvantaged compared to the man, where her family related duties will necessarily be harmed, and where she will create a disruption to the work environment she has been forced into that will harm others.
I suggest that the husband determines how he can maximize his wife’s skills and attain the highest value for the family at any given time. If he feels it is in the home, then she stays home. If he feels at work, then she works. And all along the wife should respect his decision and trust that he knows what is best for the family. It took much internal conflict for me to realize that just because my husband thought I should work from time to time before we had kids, doesn’t mean he is not a real man. He felt my time and skills were better spent adding to our savings than having a meticulously clean house. I trust his judgment and enjoy knowing that by helping him where he needs help (helpmate) will lessen his stress down the road when another bout of lay-offs come as it no doubt will in this brave new world.
What causes harm when a woman is forced into a work environment is not the actual situation, but the woman’s response to that situation. If I followed traditionalist thinking, I would feel resent and hostility towards my husband for not keeping me in the gilded housewife role. Much easier to yield, take comfort in knowing you are helping your husband feel less stressed, and pray for God’s will.
Looking at historical statistics only 2.2% of white married women worked in the United States in 1890. The earnings of men were far lower in 1890 than they are today but such a high priority was placed on protecting married women from having to work that even in such an overall materially deprived environment white married women were successfully protected from the necessity of paid work 98% of the time.
I don’t doubt those statistics and those certainly were better times, but this doesn’t deal with reality. The reality is women rebelled against all that. Collectively women have decided they don’t want to be protected and choices must have consequences. If it means the end of a stable society, so be it. I and many others are prepared for that. They only way modern women will learn their lesson, of their part in the fall of a great nation, is to watch it burn for themselves. A rebellious spirit cannot be reasoned or romanced with talks of the greater good.
I said at the beginning that women in general should be granted the rights of the Traditional Woman simply because they are women regardless of how a particular woman identifies herself.This is because the virtue and desirability of the Traditional Woman is universal and because women in general need to be able to trust men in general.
A woman has the duties of a Traditional Woman whether a woman sees herself as a Traditional Woman or not. In the same way a man has the duties of a Traditional Man whether a man sees himself as a Traditional Man or not. This then means that women should be granted the rights and privileges of the Traditional Woman regardless of the details of their self-identification because all women share a role and a purpose in common whether women accept this reality or not.
I don’t see how there is any other way to read this than to say that feminists, modern women, and the common slut should all be treated like traditional women just because they are still women underneath it all. No need to act like a lady, you will be treated like a lady simply by being born with female parts. That is one sweet deal. Women need to get their act together and get a grasp on the invaluable role they play in society before men start handing out rights and privileges. As I recall men handed out the “right to vote” and that has just done wonders for the traditional cause.
What does it matter if women all share a role in common if most of them are not willing to accept this in their real, day to day lives?
Since the standard operating assumption of society should be to favor and promote the virtues of the Traditional Woman for this reason society should grant to women the rights and privileges of the Traditional Woman on principle universally.
Here is where we deal with fantasy world versus real world. Yes, that SHOULD be how society operates, but is isn’t–that is the ugly truth. This is where the line is drawn–living based on how things SHOULD be and living based on how things actually are. Living a life planted in how the world actually operates does not lessen one’s traditional beliefs or vision, but rather gives a better awareness of how to make changes to get back to how they SHOULD be; which is not by merely treating women and men as traditional women and men just because they are women and men.
So I encourage all the men out there to step up to their manly duties as men and support the cause of Traditional Women’s Rights.
On the same token, it seems then men should be treated as traditional men regardless in how they identify themselves. Therefore, women all over should treat gamers/PUAs, MRAs, “bad boys”, abusive men, etc., as traditional men because their sex dictates that you do so. Step up to your womanly duty and support Traditional Men’s Rights because whether or not the PUAs acknowledge it, they are Traditional Men. Although then again, that’s right–women don’t have duties, just “rights and privileges”.