Return of Kings Reminding men to “Beware the Coming Breed of Pro-Male Women”

Return of Kings has an article reminding men to Beware the Coming Breed of “Pro-Male” Women. This is a topic I and others have written about in the past and it mostly falls on deaf ears and justly so as no doubt my saying it makes them deaf, so its good to see more men speaking the obvious and not melting into a pile of mush when any female comes along saying all the right things and playing their Game of Appearances.

A few quotes from the author of the article, Ashlar Ben David:

“I believe that men are in a state of deep and painful yearning for true femininity—with all its supportive and healing qualities—and will be fairly easy to trick with a presentation that appears to be what we’ve been looking for.”

Yes, the men are like this:

and they fall all over themselves Believing in Unicorns. Likewise, women are in a deep state of yearning for the masculine and is probably why they fall or I guess you could say get tricked by the “bad boy,” the dominating abusive ones, not the strong dominant, leading ones (and yes, there is a big difference).

“But what all experienced men know is far more likely, is that they got tricked by a woman with better game than them.”

Yes, and the female version of that “better game” is wiles. I’ve said before that dating amounts to “ye who plays the best game wins”. Either one sex or the other will come out in the dominant position in a relationship. Men are being taken aback by feminine beauty, charms, and all the right anti-feminist talking points, much like in the video above and they melt for a sweet song, whether the words to that song are true or not. Just as men have learned “game” women have learned their own version, one that probably predates male game as female game was once billed in years past as Moral Dominance”. What makes their game sometimes better is they just have being playing it longer and it is now an innate characteristic that fuels the “feminine mystique”.

For further reading on the female game of wiles see:

Feminine Wiles Classified as “fraud in the quality of merchandise”

An Old Dog Falls for an Old Trick

Bend and Snap: The Red Pill Woman Trap

How Honeyed Words Won Victory

Matt Forney on Red Pill Women

Back to the Return of Kings article, Dave6034 comments:

“I was recently banned for arguing than neither women nor poor men should be allowed to vote, because single women always vote for socialism, and men who can’t get their own shit together should not be passing laws that affect everyone else.

The best part is that the forum was called “A Voice for Men”, and the moderator who banned me was a woman who claimed to be anti-feminist. How are men supposed to find their voice when women decide what men are allowed to say?”

This again is an excellent example of what happens when you succumb to the Philosophy of “Let the Little Woman Do It”. A Voice for Men added women to their team at a very quick pace. They sold their soul to the devil in order to get their message to the mainstream and bringing women on board was the perfect way to do this so they wouldn’t be seen as just a bunch of misogynists. If you give a woman a cookie….if you give a woman attention…if you give a woman a position on your team…next they will want a glass of milk to go with it, or in other words, want to be the team. To think, a man wants to voice his thoughts on a site called “A Voice for Men” and he is shut down by a woman. Truly telling on how so much has changed  within the manosphere.

On a closing note, the author says “beware”. Yes– Beware Beware Be a very wary bear.

What “future husband”?

Pop culture always out does itself. The latest song from Meghan Trainor:

Dear future husband,
Here’s a few things
You’ll need to know if you wanna be
My one and only all my life

Take me on a date
I deserve a break
And don’t forget the flowers every anniversary
‘Cause if you’ll treat me right
I’ll be the perfect wife
Buying groceries
Buy-buying what you need

You got that 9 to 5
But, baby, so do I
So don’t be thinking I’ll be home and baking apple pies
I never learned to cook
But I can find a hook
Sing along with me
Sing-sing along with me (hey)

You gotta know how to treat me like a lady
Even when I’m acting crazy
Tell me everything’s alright

Dear future husband,
Here’s a few things you’ll need to know if you wanna be
My one and only all my life
Dear future husband,
If you wanna get that special lovin’
Tell me I’m beautiful each and every night

After every fight
Just apologize
And maybe then I’ll let you try and rock my body right
Even if I was wrong
You know I’m never wrong
Why disagree?
Why, why disagree?

You gotta know how to treat me like a lady
Even when I’m acting crazy
Tell me everything’s alright

Dear future husband,
Here’s a few things
You’ll need to know if you wanna be
My one and only all my life (hey, baby)
Dear future husband,
Make time for me
Don’t leave me lonely
And know we’ll never see your family more than mine

I’ll be sleeping on the left side of the bed (hey)
Open doors for me and you might get some kisses
Don’t have a dirty mind
Just be a classy guy
Buy me a ring
Buy-buy me a ring, babe

You gotta know how to treat me like a lady
Even when I’m acting crazy
Tell me everything’s alright

Dear future husband,
Here’s a few things
You’ll need to know if you wanna be
My one and only all my life
Dear future husband,
If you wanna get that special loving
Tell me I’m beautiful each and every night

And tell me exactly why any man would want to sign up for something with so many conditions and stipulations? Treat her like a lady even if she is acting crazy.  Sex is withheld as punishment for not apologizing or being told she is beautiful. No other pop song catches so many manosphere talking points so nicely. This even out does Beyoncé.

Truth is all these conditions she has are things women don’t really want. They don’t want flowers every anniversary–that is beta and boring. A woman deep down doesn’t want to be treated like a lady when she is acting crazy, she wants to be put firmly and lovingly in her place. So, a man can still jump through all these hoops only to find out he is still not her one and only. The attitude in this song, promoted by women,  sets men up for failure and the invisible hand behind it all wants both sexes to fail, to be alone, and that is what we are getting with men and women both choosing to go their own ways. Songs like this always stem from this assumption that there is a huge pool of dashing men just waiting to be swooped up by one of these classy ladies–that the future husbands will just always  be there, a given as sure as death and taxes, waiting to jump at her command.  This is not true. At best there will be future relationships or “dear future partner”.

The Philosophy of “let the little woman do it”


Let’s zero in on that last paragraph. When I dipped my toes into the manosphere five years ago it was a largely a group of  men looking to reassert their authority, take back what belongs to them, and not let the “little woman” get her way. This was attractive and something to support from the sidelines; just as men support revivals of femininity from the sidelines. Since that time, there has been a slow fade of men acquiescing to “let the  little woman do it” philosophy. They like to talk about authority, about being leaders, but in the safe world of comboxes where postulating theories and hypotheticals seem to be equivalent to gaining real experience.

A Voice for Men (AVfM) is the best example of succumbing to the “let the little woman do it” philosophy.  They even admit, “At this point there are far too many women involved in the men’s movement to list even a small fraction of them.”  Doesn’t that just say all we need to know? Let the “little women” come in and take over. Note the use of “involved” rather than “support”–a subtle, but big difference.  Women were brought in because of a  feminized instilled fear of being seen as a “bunch of woman-hating men”. More from AVfM: “…whatever you’ve heard about how the Men’s Human Rights Movement is nothing but a bunch of woman-hating men and obedient servant women is a lie: we are a nonviolent human rights movement, welcome to everybody who shares our values.” What they really are is a “voice for humanity” with a faux masculine bravado where the women directly or indirectly call the shots. There is the saying, “Wolves don’t lose sleep over the opinions of sheep”.   AVfM’s need to prove themselves to sheep (i.e. society, women) overtook them.

There are still wolves around in the manosphere but they keep to their own dens, ignore or are indifferent to the silly opinions of women, and especially don’t orbit or pedestal women. Bottom line- I support wolves, not worms. Women don’t want to support feminized men anymore than men want to support masculine women.

wolves sleep


Exclaiming “You’re just jealous” to someone you don’t agree with is a long standing tactic, especially amongst women, to shut down debate and attempt to brush someone aside with one fell swoop.  Clearly, if someone is jealous, what they say can’t possibly have any merit. Problem solved. Let’s just reframe the topic at hand to make it all about the person they disagree with and their alleged issues.

There is another trend surfacing that falls into the same “shut down debate” camp. That being, the exclamation “your obsessed with me” or “I don’t know why he/she is so obsessed with me”.  The purpose here again is to distract the reader that its the other person who has a problem–they are obsessed, they are jealous. Again, reframe the debate.

Those who are deemed obsessed may really be those who observe, who have fine attention to detail and catch inconsistences that the opponent finds uncomfortable. What the person bringing obsessed charges is saying is “you look too closely to what I am saying and see through the BS. I don’t like that, I’m uncomfortable, so you must be made out to be crazed, obsessed person and snuffed out.”

I googled this new trend of “obsessed” accusations and lo and behold there is this clip from the 2005 movie Mean Girls:

Yup, so much can always be brought back to that film and also so much can always be brought back to my Feminization of Rhetoric post. Both tactics are most common amongst women because these are feminine debating styles, but feminized men are just as susceptible. What happens when women are allowed unrestrained in debate forums is a change of debating style to the feminine. The men don’t even realize this is happening because it is so slow and subtle over time. Men who resort to “you’re just jealous”  and “you’re obsessed” are debating like Mean Girls, a far cry from the masculine rhetorical art of yesterday.

Shying Away from the Term “Anti-Feminism”

I am starting to shy away from using the term “anti-feminism” because of stuff like this:


Photo from

The above reminded me of this post I wrote in 2009 about the push for “new feminism” as a better alternative to the commonly known Feminism that has been overplayed. It seems anti-feminism is quickly being promoted as a branch of this “new feminism”.  Just subtle things I have been noticing here and there.  I don’t say this to be negative or to suggest that all anti-feminists are feminists, but to try to stay ahead of the ever morphing evil spirit that is behind feminism.

Note: This is also making me rethink the title of my “Anti-Feminism University” series.

More quotes from “Women are Destroying Themselves”

More quotes by Fulton Oursler clipped from an article in the The Lincoln Star, titled, “Women are Destroying Themselves” by Lillian Genn, 1935. I started to write some commentary, but as usual, these articles speak for themselves. Still more quotes to come.


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This “all satisfying” love is dominance, guidance, protection.  The lack of dominance in men, that women helped snuff out, has created an unspoken problem.

The Leisurely Life of a 1950s Housewife

In the book “A Lesser Life” by Sylvia Ann Hewlett, there is a chapter on the “male rebellion” that occurred in the 1950s and 60s in response to men getting fed up with being providers while their wives enjoyed charmed lives at home. A snippet from  “Through all my Housework in an Hour”, Ladies Home Journal, October 1960, highlights the typical day of a 1950s housewife:


It is no wonder men would get upset with this and no doubt it is stories like this one that lead men to go their own way and reject the provider role. Some may say Mrs. Crabtree deserves such a leisurely life, after all she found a way to get all her chores done at lightening speed so that she could thereby maximize her fun. Clever lady!  Do men get this same luxury? If they have a 9-5 desk job, no matter how hard and efficient they are at their job, they still have to sit there till 5:00. It is said, “a woman’s work is never done”, yet with the invention of modern appliances, it really is done (at least for that day) and quick too.  It is the man’s work of providing that is never truly done.

Take this same story and transfer it to modern times. No longer do women hurry up and get all their chores done to play bridge, but rather to be online with blogs and facebook. Women who spend an inordinate amount of time online–are they really any different than Mrs. Crabtree?  Instead of 9-3 playing cards, its 9-3 blogging and facebooking. It is one thing if chores are done efficiently to spend time with family, homeschool, to be out with their kids in the real world, but a completely other thing so that she can play cards, be online in the fake world, or go shopping and get her hair done with the girls.

Now, there is a footnote to this story that is interesting:


Mrs. Crabtree is no doubt an upper middle class snob, so its no wonder that other women, presumably the lower class ones, took issue with this as not an accurate portrayal of the struggles of the average housewife. While Mrs. Crabtree says she may be “too content”, at the same time woman across America were getting that stirring of the famous problem that has no name.

Memoirs and the Appearance of the “crisply white as parchment” Woman

An excerpt from Sex with Kings by Eleanor Herman:

In the 1600s, “Memoirs became popular, though they must be read with care and compared with other documents of the period. Written with an aim of publication, many memoirs had the dual purpose of self-vindication and finger-pointing. Shortly before her death in 1615, Queen Marguerite of France wrote her memoirs to provide herself with a virtue as crisply white as parchment, throwing in numerous stories of her husband’s unseemly behavior with mistresses, though leaving out her own unseemly behavior with lovers.”

From the dawn of time till the present day, yes, all women are indeed “like that”. A common feminist lament is that men were the writers of history and women’s voices were lost in time, silenced by the patriarchy. This is just one example of a woman (albeit a Queen) who had a voice, but look at how she chose to share that voice, not only by trashing her king husband but also by putting herself on a pedestal at the same time, without disclosing her own sins. A win-win for both camps of feminism by killing two birds with one stone. The man-hating, down with patriarchy women get to see a perverted King’s name tarred and feathered (justice served) and the traditionalist, more refined, morally superior women get to see their sins erased and their symbolic queen status in tact. Overall, a score for “Team Woman” as women come out golden here for both camps.

Memoirs in general (think James Frey) and especially those told by women are useless and should be treated as fiction until proven beyond a doubt otherwise. While printed traditional memoirs are still around, the real modern day memoirs are blogs and social media. This is the platform modern women now use to tell and share their story, stories that can be told with “a virtue as crisply white as parchment” to create a pretty picture and perhaps subconsciously hide from her sins back in the real world. The more women talk and boast about how great they are online, the more of a win “Team Woman” gets. This could also be one reason women are so involved on facebook and blogging about their lives—to create an alter-ego of who they wish they were and how they want to be remembered even if it isn’t true. In a culture where women were raised up to have extreme self-esteem and to be extraordinary, the thought of passing from this earth as ordinary with an ordinary life is really a fate worse than death.

A further point for discussion–how exactly would history have been written if women did have the majority voice? If Queen Marguerite is any indication, it would be a history where women are superior, morally and otherwise, it would be a matriarchy. In the same spirit, how would society be remembered 100 years from now if all that remains are digital records of women’s social media accounts? A scary thought.